Person watch is unfair!

Category: Zone BBS Suggestions and Feedback

Post 1 by Mexican Spitfire (Eating the elephant one bite at a time.) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 9:24:39

Hello admins, Cl's and little timewasters like myself. Well, here's another suggestion to add the milliones already here. On to the serious part then.
I've been thinking about this little thing called person watch which lets you see or get notified when your friends are logged into this mad house. Prettynice feature. Yet.... In this day and age, it might be used for spying purposes. Yes, premium users, don't get all riled up about it. If I am correct at how this works, when you put someone on person watch, you can se when he or she logs in. What if that person doesn't want to be seen or have other people notified about his/her logging in. I think that this is just another form of privacy invasion. We always make suggestions for adding new games, new features, making changes to existing features and games, so now I'm turning over the tortilla and suggesting, almost requesting, that we do away with the person watch feature. Premium users, you already dozens of other features available to you as part of this elite group, so I'm thinking that getting rid of this particular one shouldn't hurt. One more reason for me being against this feature? Ok.
If we are not premium users, we will not be able to see who has us on person watch. This, in itself, is unfair. Again, wat if we don't want to be seen logging in by a certain someone or certain someones. Just a very strong suggestion. Cl's? Admins? Comments? And, as always, the rest of you are welcome to comment and put your nickel's worth on this board. Thanks.

Post 2 by nikos (English words from a Greek thinking brain) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 9:30:38

Hi.
Only premium members can put people in person watch but everyone can see if anyone is watching them and they an ignore them if they wish.
So it's not that unfair as you say because you can have the control to allow or not allow somebody to get the emails if anyone is watching you.

Post 3 by Mexican Spitfire (Eating the elephant one bite at a time.) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 10:17:48

Please explain how we can see who has us on person watch for those who are not premium?

Post 4 by sugar (Entertain me. I dare you.) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 10:34:47

go to the person watch link from the main page. First you will see, if you are premium, an edit field for you to add people to your person watch. Then, there will be a combo box for you to arrow through the people you have on person watch, and a remove button after that. Underneath that, there is a list of the people who have you on person watch. Next to each name, there is an ignore link. If you don't want them watching you, just click it. Hth.
Danielle

Post 5 by Mexican Spitfire (Eating the elephant one bite at a time.) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 10:59:40

Thanks Danielle.

Post 6 by rat (star trek rules!) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 11:09:06

this has always been there, you just have to look. the admins wouldn't put something in that would invade on someone's privacey, it would be illegal

Post 7 by Jage (Zone BBS, a decade of madness) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 11:18:59

Remember, people logging in and out is public information, already. One could watch the list at the top of the page without even logging in themselves to see who else is on the site. And if you log in invisibly, person watch won't go out.

Post 8 by rat (star trek rules!) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 11:30:35

good point j.j, i didn't think of that. should have though

Post 9 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 15:05:02

the only thing that gets me about person watch, is all the emails.

yes, you can get emails when someone logs in (that's pretty cool) but maybe you can set time zones so that you don't get wasted emails and hassle of removing unwanted messages?

Post 10 by rat (star trek rules!) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 15:20:55

one idea i had at one time was a way to disable person watch messages like you can for email lists

Post 11 by sugar (Entertain me. I dare you.) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 16:54:24

Erm, excuse me for asking what may be considered as a stupid question, but, surely, if you want to disable the emails, you just turn person watch off? no?

Post 12 by rat (star trek rules!) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 17:39:14

you can't turn off person watch unless you take all the names out of the list of people to watch for

Post 13 by maddog (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 17:40:38

exactly. There's really no need for the admins to code anything else into person wathc, just leave it the way it is. If you don't like the numbers of emails you're getting, then just disable the person who keeps logging in 200 times or so a day.
This is just another feature of convenients, and you don't have to use it if you don't want to.

Post 14 by Spirit Led Poet (a single snowflake falling from the stars above) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 18:57:28

well, i agree that this feature is, umm, weerd. But we can't log in invisablly if we're not premium, rite? so then anyone who has us on person watch can always see cuz we'll always be loging in publically.:)

Post 15 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Thursday, 19-Oct-2006 21:16:04

That is what the ignore link in person watch is for Nicole. If you don't like the fact that somebody is watching out for you, then simply hit the ignore link and they will no longer receive any notifications.

Frankly when I first heard about person watch I wasn't a fan. I'm still not truth be known as I do agree with the sentiments expressed by others saying that the feature is weird and creepy. However safeguards have been built in to it by the admins so that users, if they so desire, can retain their anonymity. I suppose that'll just have to do.

Thanks. Dan.

Post 16 by DancingAfterDark (I just keep on posting!) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 4:17:11

The ignore link in person watch is pretty much pointless, since if you ignore them they can just come to the site and check the login list without logging in themselves. Along the same line of thinking, person watch is pretty pointless in general, but okay. I think it's unlikely that they'll get rid of it, since the option to keep them from person watching you is there, but I do agree that it's a bit creepy and much.

Post 17 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 5:12:54

i agree with chelsea.

what's the point of the ignore link if they can just log in the site and check your profile

Post 18 by Pink Pineapple (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 5:51:25

I always thought person watch was stupid so since some agree why not make it so that we can block everyone from putting us on person watch all together if we want? I mean who checks the person watch list constantly to see who has added them? We should just be able to disable it on our acount if we want

Post 19 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 6:48:54

yet another good idea

Post 20 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 7:05:01

Why not just get rid of the feature altogether? Like others have pointed out, you can just have the zone open on your computer without logging in, and by refreshing the page every so often, keep track of who is logged on.

I have to admit I liked the person watch feature when it was first made available. There were a couple people I really enjoyed talking to who rarely logged on, so I wanted to know when they did log on so we could chat as I didn't have messenger then. But more recently, I found out someone was watching me, and that did give me a bit of a creepy feeling. Especially since I did not consider this person a close friend, and I didn't know why he had me on person watch. So yeah, I can understand people thinking it is creepy.

Post 21 by Mexican Spitfire (Eating the elephant one bite at a time.) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 8:47:12

Ex'x'x'xx'x'x'x'xactly my point. We are now back to my first suggestion. It's interesting to see how from so many suggestions and replies we're back where we started! A couple of people point out something that make sense. The premium users should have a way to disable person watch. What's another bit of coding when every CL and Admin. is changing and improving the site every day, so to speak? But getting back to my main point. I still think this feature should go for the various reasons pointed out on here or have a disabling feature added for premiums and regulars too, why not? Thanks.

Post 22 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 9:08:02

I think it should just be eliminated altogether. I doubt if anyone other than some sick stalkers would miss it anyway.

Post 23 by jessmonsilva (Taking over the boards, one topic at a time.) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 10:17:35

I think it's kinda stupid but in a way it's kinda cute, lol. Just my oppinion, but as far as the log in thing is concerned, you can only see them logged in if they are not invisible. Admins fixed the bug out of that imvisibility thing, so yeah.

Post 24 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 11:02:52

I have 2 people on person watch, I asked them both if they minded before putting them there, and they hardly ever log in, but my email downloads every 15 minutes or so, so I love the feature. if there was someone watching me I didn't want to, I'd just ask them if they'd not do so. If they weren't in agreement, then I guess they'd be first person ever on my ignore list.

Post 25 by Chris N (I just keep on posting!) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 11:09:19

Another idea is to send you a system message, that you'll get on your next login, if someone adds you to Personwatch. I really want to limit things like this to what's absolutely necessary, to encourage all of you to actually read them. :)

Post 26 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 11:16:48

Actually Chris I like that idea. Then you'd know straight away and could take steps to stop the user watching you if you so desired.

Thanks. Dan.

Post 27 by rat (star trek rules!) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 12:40:34

you know not all of us are on our computers all the time. some of us use our notetakers. you can't keep a internet window open at all times like you can on a laptop or desktop. this is the main reason i like person watch. i also have to say that i agree with blackbird on this matter. i always ask someone before adding them.

Post 28 by maddog (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 17:41:33

lol you guys really are making this into a bigger deal than it should be. However, I do like Chris's idea of sending a system message to a person if they were put on person watch by someone else. that way, they can take steps to avoid it, but there are people wh oreally love this idea, so I must say, I don't think that it'll be taken down. However, I have to ask, how many of you would want this feature removed? (only premiums should be able to answer cause they are te only ones who can put people on person watch), but I suspect that all of you are gona answer regardless...*sighs*

Post 29 by rat (star trek rules!) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 18:07:10

as i said, i like this feature a great deal.
It makes it easy for people that have notetakers to keep an eye out for their friends.

Post 30 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Friday, 20-Oct-2006 20:24:50

yes, it certainly has blown up way out of proportion! it's not a bad thing, we can of course prevent them from watching us if we like.
I mean the feature is not absolutely necessary but it's not altogether ridiculous either. yes, of course if there wasn't an option to prevent someone from watching you, it'd be different! this was talked about when the feature was first implemented.

Post 31 by Mexican Spitfire (Eating the elephant one bite at a time.) on Saturday, 21-Oct-2006 21:07:46

I vote that this feature goes. You're darn right Ather. I'm not premium, yet I'm saying something about it. We should all be able to say something about it if we're going to be watch too. Ok, so let's keep the ball rolling. I vote that the feature disappears. Keep sighing Ather.
Celli

Post 32 by UnknownQuantity (Account disabled) on Saturday, 21-Oct-2006 21:52:11

I think that it's fine, as long as those who are being watched know they are, and have the option not to be, but I feel everyone can have a say as to whether it stay sor not as non-premium members are watched also!

Post 33 by jmbauer (Technology's great until it stops working.) on Saturday, 21-Oct-2006 22:01:15

Agreed with posts 24 and 25...

Post 34 by jessmonsilva (Taking over the boards, one topic at a time.) on Sunday, 22-Oct-2006 1:54:21

I don't mind it either way. It doesn't really bug me none.

Post 35 by nikos (English words from a Greek thinking brain) on Sunday, 22-Oct-2006 5:53:28

I think is a good feature.
I use it for a couple of people and i asked them first and they agreed.
I like the idea of sending a quiknote message to let us know when somebody is watching us.
Also i have got another idea but i don't know how good it is so let me know if you like it.
Maybe it would be nice if we can't put somebody in person watch strate away. I think it would be good if we could send a request to the person we want to watch and the person the next time of logging would have to accept or decline before the feature take effect.
What do you think?

Post 36 by Pink Pineapple (Veteran Zoner) on Sunday, 22-Oct-2006 6:45:23

yeah that idea might work to

Post 37 by Mexican Spitfire (Eating the elephant one bite at a time.) on Monday, 23-Oct-2006 7:44:41

Ok, I think it works. Let's go for it then.

Post 38 by jessmonsilva (Taking over the boards, one topic at a time.) on Monday, 23-Oct-2006 9:19:36

I like that idea.